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    Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by gerbot150 on Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:34 pm

    Hey guys! I'm just wondering if there's a list of all of the cards that can only be obtained in starter decks. I'm trying to get some of my favourite cards but I'm pretty sure I can't through normal packs.

    Thanks!
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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:20 pm

    I'll do my best

    first off any and all past cards are only available in the secrets of the lost city starter decks so that much is easy to figure out (4 per deck 3 rares and 1 super/ultra)

    In terms of marrilian invasion I'm 90% sure these are only avabile in the Marrillian invasion starter decks but there may be more. I can make a more complete list if anyone has any packs of beyond the doors (like the physical foil which has the number of cards in the set on the back) (btw its also 4 with 3 rares and 1 super/ultra in each deck I'm pretty sure)

    alazdan
    alluring bait
    aokua
    Kh'rall husk armor
    Ulmar's bionic steam arm
    ballad of the belittled
    Kalanju
    Issaley
    gan'trak


    Supers
    illusionary lake
    open door's of the deepmines
    song of stable shields
    Taganath tobron in training
    ritzudag
    bivike
    mindful finish
    disempowerment combo

    ultras
    Sink scream
    katharaz
    ebannabakku
    jade pillar
    predators song

    Dawn of Perim is the one that confuses me the most there appear to have been 2 printing runs have some differences like some of the cards being errated to more modern rules and all the rares having the modern all foil look instead of the original only foil text look. anyway the point is packs of the older printing seems to be basiclly nonexistat and the newer printing seems to be short cards. the newer printing has none of the cards found by default in the DoP starter decks ( zaur, rellim, song of resurgence ect.) I'm fairly certain there are rares supers and ultras missing too but which ones those are I don't know... anyway I know the starter decks of this set have the same 3 rares 1 super ultra layout with but i'm fairly certian there pure random and not a seprate group like the other. anyway if it turns out supers/ultras ARE missing I recomend getting them in single from since they printed those nice gold rares of all the old supers and ultras how nice!

    hope this helps you make informed buying decisions


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by gerbot150 on Tue Mar 29, 2016 10:34 pm

    Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was looking for and it's really helpful. Do you know about Ikkatosh? I think I've gotten 14 boxes of M'arrillian invasion since the game went under but none of him.
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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Wed Mar 30, 2016 12:14 am

    well I know that's wrong I have foil versions of him and since only non foil versions are in starter decks I know he has to be in the normal packs that must be the craziest luck or all time...


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by cromax123456 on Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:11 am

    This is the starter exclusives for Dawn of Perim:
    Overworld:
    Blazier SR
    Donmar R
    Heptadd UR
    Intress SR
    Owis SR
    Staluk R
    Tangath Toborn SR

    Underworld:
    Barath Beyond SR
    Drakness SR
    Klasp R
    Lord Van Bloot UR
    Skreeth R
    Takinom SR
    Xield SR

    Danian:
    Ekuud R

    Mipedian:
    Ario R

    Attack:
    Hail Storm SR
    Hive Call R
    Lavalanche SR
    Lucky Shot UR
    Sludge Gush SR
    Toxic Gust SR
    Viperlash R

    Battlegear:
    Aqua Shield SR
    Cyclance R
    Liquilizer R
    Nexus Fuse SR
    Orb of Foresight R
    Stone Mail UR

    Mugic:
    Interlude of Consequence SR
    Song of Stasis R
    Song of Asperity R

    Locations:
    Dranakis Threshold SR
    Glacier Plains SR
    Lake Ken-i-po UR
    Underworld City SR

    If any of these are wrong, please correct me.
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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by gerbot150 on Wed Mar 30, 2016 10:26 am

    Awesome thanks again!
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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by T_ARA on Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:30 pm

    @cromax123456 wrote:
    If any of these are wrong, please correct me.

    I know Intress, Takinom, and Barath Beyond are all available in those Scanner tins.


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Oracle Afjak on Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:40 pm

    Can confirm that Tangath Toborn 1.0 was not starter exclusive. he was in the first DoPS booster that I ever bought.


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Marrillian on Thu Mar 31, 2016 12:20 am

    I don't think scanner tins are counted towards a cards starter exclusivity. Because the exclusiveness primarily refers to the ability to pull the card from packs of the given set.


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    Post by Chiodosin1 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 3:40 pm

    if anyone buys any beyond the doors or dawn of perim packs anytime, do me a favor: take the foil from a pack, turn it over, int the corner they'll be some odds i.e. super rare 1:3. Next to those ratios will be a number this is the number of that rarity in that set (for example if it says super rare(50) 1:3 that means there are 50 super rares in the set) if you'd be willing to share all those numbers with me I'd appreciate it. I'd like to figure out which cards are starter deck exclusive as a more definitive list, but I can't be sure I got the right number without those numbers so if you ever get you hands on them hook me up.


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chaotic11 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:18 pm

    Question - Do they have to be unopened packs or could we just look at the binders of cards we have and find the numbers?
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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by ketac123 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 4:35 pm

    Dawn of Perim says 32 Supers 7 Ultras on the back
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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Wed Oct 12, 2016 5:38 pm

    thanks kettac 2 questions 1. do you know if that's the orginal printing or the sorta redone one with the all foil rares and 2. could I get the commons uncommons and rares too? @chaotic11 no its only on the packs themselves the foil outer part with the picture. that the thing you usually throw away so I don't have any lol.


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by TheOneVeyronian on Thu Oct 13, 2016 12:53 pm

    I'm weird and keep a copy of each expansion's foil packet. I can confirm that Dawn of Perim 1st edition packs (they contained bronzed text rares) reads:
    67 Common cards*
    38 Rare cards
    32 Super Rare cards
    7 Ultra Rare cards

    With a stated total of 144 cards (found where it says "this pack contains a random assortment of 9 cards from the 144 Dawn of Perim...")

    *Strangely there isn't a listing for the amount of uncommon cards on the packets I have. But 67 commons can't be right, TCO lists only 59 commons and that includes starter deck exclusive commons. But I can confirm the packets contained uncommons.

    And Beyond the Doors reads:
    47 Common cards
    49 Uncommon cards
    38 Rare cards
    36 Super Rare cards
    10 Ultra Rare cards

    With a total of 180 cards.

    Hope that helps. Though DoP might be a little confusing because it looks like print omissions are present on the packet.


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Thu Oct 13, 2016 1:13 pm

    exactly the fact that the omissions are listed on the package should help me deterime how many there are and eventually which ones they are. yes DoP combined the commons and uncommons in that list for some weird reason (the numbers add up don't worry) thanks guys, this might take a bit to figure out, get back to you soon as I can


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:30 pm

    Edit: ignore anything I said before DoP seems to have the usual SD exlucives senerio. if you've gotten any of these from a normal pack (not a starter deck) let me know still looking for 3 supers and 1 ultras
    possible supers
    interlude of consequence
    Dranikus threshold
    Glacier plains
    Underworld city
    Iron Pillar
    Aqua shield
    Nexus fuse
    Talisman of the mandiblor
    Intress
    Owis
    Blazier
    Draknis
    Takinom
    Xeild
    hail strom
    lavalanche
    sludge gush
    telekinetic bolt
    toxic gust

    Possible ultras
    Lake ken-i-po
    lord van bloot
    heptadd
    Stone mail
    lucky shot
    megaroar

    Any other questions or corrections let me know.


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Marrillian on Wed Nov 23, 2016 2:39 pm

    @Chiodosin1 wrote:
    also I'm intrested if anyone has any packs of Dawn of perim first edition I'd like to assume that sets numbers will match the whole set but I'm curious there marked with the first edition symbol on the pack so if anyone ever come across one hook me up with the numbers.

    TheOneVeyronian had the pack numbers for DoP first edition.

    67 Common cards
    38 Rare cards (2:1)
    32 Super Rare cards (1:3)
    7 Ultra Rare cards (1:24)

    Castle Pillar is not exclusive. I've pulled 2 from packs. Maxxor is exclusive
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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:24 pm

    huh your right I can't read lol well that's odd then I wonder where all the other cards come from... maybe they are starter deck only? that would fall in line with previous sets... I'll have to buy another starter deck and look into this what a mess. glad to have castle pillar off the list though.


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:33 pm

    ugh yeah it seems there most likely just starter deck exclusive this is what happens when I don't buy starter deck lol. well I'm sorry for the confusion then I'll fix this asap.


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by TheOneVeyronian on Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:14 pm

    Can I suggest a couple of corrections? Chaor isn't a starter deck exclusive. I definitely pulled my Chaor from a 1st edition booster pack. I'm also pretty sure my OW Refrain of Denial came from a booster pack too. Other than that, I think your list is pretty accurate. Info like this is very useful when evaluating the value of TCO trades and stuff like that.

    I have a feeling one of the SD exclusive ultras might be a Mugic, possibly Mugic Reprise (definitely not Song of Deflection, I got 2 of those from boosters). Seems logical enough given there's creatures, attacks, a battlegear and a location in the list.

    But no wonder determining the DoP starter exclusives is a mess, the second print run of DoP decks (which were the only ones to reach general retail in my country while the game was still active) contained "exclusive" cards that I found in several 1st edition boosters (last one I bought had a Melody of Malady as the super).


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by TheOneVeyronian on Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:06 am

    Also what about the rares, uncommons and commons? I think there was starter deck exclusives at every rarity, not just the "rare" rarities. For example, I never ever pulled any Krekks, Canon of Casualtys or Song of Resurgences from the 100's of boosters of DoP I've opened, I only found them in starter decks. There's more I'm sure but those are the ones I remember immediately.

    Can you take Chaor and Refrain of Denial off your SD exclusive list though as I know for certain those are incorrect (I got both of mine through boosters)?


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Marrillian on Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:09 pm

    Yeah, there are starter exclusive commons and uncommons. Aren't ember flourish and the water/earth one also exclusive?

    DOP was a mess of a set.
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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Fri Dec 02, 2016 2:14 pm

    @Marrillian wrote:Yeah, there are starter exclusive commons and uncommons. Aren't ember flourish and the water/earth one also exclusive?

    DOP was a mess of a set.

    the commons and uncommons and rares were actually pretty easy to figure out due to there higher quanity so I have a complete list, its dumber than you think since they cut into cycle for no reason, song of ember nova? that's in pack but song of geonova? nope. why? also some can be found in both which doesn't help. getting close though just need 3 of those supers and 1 of those ultras are in packs just gotta figure out which ones.

    Edit: seems I never posted this link... oops this is where my actual findings are my bad http://chaoticbackup.forumotion.com/t1085-starter-deck-list-exclusives-and-other-pack-contents-information-wip


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    Post by TheOneVeyronian on Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:39 pm

    Ah, didn't realise that the the "searching for" bit meant you were still trying to identify cards from that list that could be found in packs!

    I just remembered a couple more of the cards from that list that I'm 100% sure I got from booster packs: Nexus Fuse and Iron Pillar. I think the third super you can find in boosters is Telekinetic Bolt, but I'm less sure of that one as I can't remember if I traded for my copy or not. Ack, if only TCO would let me look at my old completed trades I would be able to concretely confirm Telekinetic Bolt's presence in packs for you.

    As for ultras, I think Megaroar may have been in boosters, but I can't be sure on that one because I traded for my copy. I haven't got copies of any of the other ultras you list (well, except Heptadd and LVB, but I pulled both of those from tins so I definitely still consider those SD exclusives)

    I am judging this by what cards I have in my Chaotic binder by the way, of which 99% of what I have originates from 1st edition boosters (the other 1% comes from TCO trades). I've never had 1st edition starter decks, only about 4 2nd edition ones with the shiny rares (and those sometimes came with supers that could be found in 1st edition boosters! You're right, it is a mess).


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    Re: Cards Exclusive to Starter Decks

    Post by Chiodosin1 on Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:00 pm

    @TheOneVeyronian wrote:Ah, didn't realise that the the "searching for" bit meant you were still trying to identify cards from that list that could be found in packs!

    I just remembered a couple more of the cards from that list that I'm 100% sure I got from booster packs: Nexus Fuse and Iron Pillar. I think the third super you can find in boosters is Telekinetic Bolt, but I'm less sure of that one as I can't remember if I traded for my copy or not. Ack, if only TCO would let me look at my old completed trades I would be able to concretely confirm Telekinetic Bolt's presence in packs for you.

    As for ultras, I think Megaroar may have been in boosters, but I can't be sure on that one because I traded for my copy. I haven't got copies of any of the other ultras you list (well, except Heptadd and LVB, but I pulled both of those from tins so I definitely still consider those SD exclusives)

    I am judging this by what cards I have in my Chaotic binder by the way, of which 99% of what I have originates from 1st edition boosters (the other 1% comes from TCO trades). I've never had 1st edition starter decks, only about 4 2nd edition ones with the shiny rares (and those sometimes came with supers that could be found in 1st edition boosters! You're right, it is a mess).

    ah thanks for the help! I had a feeling Iron pillar was on there. anyway the in TCO you CAN look at your old trades. under the green "trades" tab got to "Your trades" and it shows everyone you've traded with. then just click on the name you want and you can see the list of trades. click on a trade and you'll see what cards were in there. as for megaroar if the card's first edition there's no way to tell if it came from a SD or Booster pack. however since there aren't any 2nd edition starter decks all 2nd edition cards are from booster packs which makes things easy. last note there's not really a difference between 1st and 2nd edition packs in terms of what cards are inside what was an error on my part based on some misinformation so don't worry about that. anyhow if you figure out anything let me know.

    Edit: telekinetic bolt is on there just watched someone open one so just need the last ultra.


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