Starter deck exclusives?

This is the starter exclusives for Dawn of Perim:
Overworld:
Blazier SR
Donmar R
Heptadd UR
Intress SR
Owis SR
Staluk R
Tangath Toborn SR

Underworld:
Barath Beyond SR
Drakness SR
Klasp R
Lord Van Bloot UR
Skreeth R
Takinom SR
Xield SR

Danian:
Ekuud R

Mipedian:
Ario R

Attack:
Hail Storm SR
Hive Call R
Lavalanche SR
Lucky Shot UR
Sludge Gush SR
Toxic Gust SR
Viperlash R

Battlegear:
Aqua Shield SR
Cyclance R
Liquilizer R
Nexus Fuse SR
Orb of Foresight R
Stone Mail UR

Mugic:
Interlude of Consequence SR
Song of Stasis R
Song of Asperity R

Locations:
Dranakis Threshold SR
Glacier Plains SR
Lake Ken-i-po UR
Underworld City SR

If any of these are wrong, please correct me.

Thank you so much! I was just wondering if there's a list of all of the cards that can only be obtained in starter decks. I'm trying to get some of my favourite cards but I'm pretty sure I can't through normal packs. This is exactly what I was looking for and it's really helpful.

Do you know about Ikkatosh? I think I've gotten 14 boxes of M'arrillian invasion since the game went under but none of him.

cromax123456 wrote:
If any of these are wrong, please correct me.

I know Intress, Takinom, and Barath Beyond are all available in those Scanner tins.

I don't think scanner tins are counted towards a cards starter exclusivity. Because the exclusiveness primarily refers to the ability to pull the card from packs of the given set.

I'll do my best 


first off any and all past cards are only available in the secrets of the lost city starter decks so that much is easy to figure out (4 per deck 3 rares and 1 super/ultra)


In terms of marrilian invasion I'm 90% sure these are only avabile in the Marrillian invasion starter decks but there may be more. I can make a more complete list if anyone has any packs of beyond the doors (like the physical foil which has the number of cards in the set on the back) (btw its also 4 with 3 rares and 1 super/ultra in each deck I'm pretty sure)


alazdan 
alluring bait 
aokua 
Kh'rall husk armor 
Ulmar's bionic steam arm 
ballad of the belittled 
Kalanju 
Issaley 
gan'trak 




Supers 
illusionary lake 
open door's of the deepmines 
song of stable shields 
Taganath tobron in training 
ritzudag 
bivike 
mindful finish 
disempowerment combo 


ultras 
Sink scream 
katharaz 
ebannabakku 
jade pillar 
predators song 


Dawn of Perim is the one that confuses me the most there appear to have been 2 printing runs have some differences like some of the cards being errated to more modern rules and all the rares having the modern all foil look instead of the original only foil text look. anyway the point is packs of the older printing seems to be basiclly nonexistat and the newer printing seems to be short cards. the newer printing has none of the cards found by default in the DoP starter decks ( zaur, rellim, song of resurgence ect.) I'm fairly certain there are rares supers and ultras missing too but which ones those are I don't know... anyway I know the starter decks of this set have the same 3 rares 1 super ultra layout with but i'm fairly certian there pure random and not a seprate group like the other. anyway if it turns out supers/ultras ARE missing I recomend getting them in single from since they printed those nice gold rares of all the old supers and ultras how nice!


hope this helps you make informed buying decisions


if anyone buys any beyond the doors or dawn of perim packs anytime, do me a favor: take the foil from a pack, turn it over, int the corner they'll be some odds i.e. super rare 1:3. Next to those ratios will be a number this is the number of that rarity in that set (for example if it says super rare(50) 1:3 that means there are 50 super rares in the set) if you'd be willing to share all those numbers with me I'd appreciate it. I'd like to figure out which cards are starter deck exclusive as a more definitive list, but I can't be sure I got the right number without those numbers so if you ever get you hands on them hook me up.

Question - Do they have to be unopened packs or could we just look at the binders of cards we have and find the numbers?

Dawn of Perim says 32 Supers 7 Ultras on the back

gerbot150 wrote:Thank you so much! This is exactly what I was looking for and it's really helpful. Do you know about Ikkatosh? I think I've gotten 14 boxes of M'arrillian invasion since the game went under but none of him.

well I know that's wrong I have foil versions of him and since only non foil versions are in starter decks I know he has to be in the normal packs that must be the craziest luck or all time...

thanks kettac 2 questions 1. do you know if that's the orginal printing or the sorta redone one with the all foil rares and 2. could I get the commons uncommons and rares too? @chaotic11 no its only on the packs themselves the foil outer part with the picture. that the thing you usually throw away so I don't have any lol.

I'm weird and keep a copy of each expansion's foil packet. I can confirm that Dawn of Perim 1st edition packs (they contained bronzed text rares) reads:
67 Common cards*
38 Rare cards
32 Super Rare cards
7 Ultra Rare cards

With a stated total of 144 cards (found where it says "this pack contains a random assortment of 9 cards from the 144 Dawn of Perim...")

*Strangely there isn't a listing for the amount of uncommon cards on the packets I have. But 67 commons can't be right, TCO lists only 59 commons and that includes starter deck exclusive commons. But I can confirm the packets contained uncommons.

And Beyond the Doors reads:
47 Common cards
49 Uncommon cards
38 Rare cards
36 Super Rare cards
10 Ultra Rare cards

With a total of 180 cards.

Hope that helps. Though DoP might be a little confusing because it looks like print omissions are present on the packet.

exactly the fact that the omissions are listed on the package should help me deterime how many there are and eventually which ones they are. yes DoP combined the commons and uncommons in that list for some weird reason (the numbers add up don't worry) thanks guys, this might take a bit to figure out, get back to you soon as I can

Edit: ignore anything I said before DoP seems to have the usual SD exlucives senerio. if you've gotten any of these from a normal pack (not a starter deck) let me know still looking for 3 supers and 1 ultras
possible supers
interlude of consequence
Dranikus threshold
Glacier plains
Underworld city
Iron Pillar
Aqua shield
Nexus fuse
Talisman of the mandiblor
Intress
Owis
Blazier
Draknis
Takinom
Xeild
hail strom
lavalanche
sludge gush
telekinetic bolt
toxic gust

Possible ultras
Lake ken-i-po
lord van bloot
heptadd
Stone mail
lucky shot
megaroar

Any other questions or corrections let me know.

Chiodosin1 wrote:
also I'm intrested if anyone has any packs of Dawn of perim first edition I'd like to assume that sets numbers will match the whole set but I'm curious there marked with the first edition symbol on the pack so if anyone ever come across one hook me up with the numbers.

TheOneVeyronian had the pack numbers for DoP first edition.

67 Common cards
38 Rare cards (2:1)
32 Super Rare cards (1:3)
7 Ultra Rare cards (1:24)

Castle Pillar is not exclusive. I've pulled 2 from packs. Maxxor is exclusive

huh your right I can't read lol well that's odd then I wonder where all the other cards come from... maybe they are starter deck only? that would fall in line with previous sets... I'll have to buy another starter deck and look into this what a mess. glad to have castle pillar off the list though.

ugh yeah it seems there most likely just starter deck exclusive this is what happens when I don't buy starter deck lol. well I'm sorry for the confusion then I'll fix this asap.

Can I suggest a couple of corrections? Chaor isn't a starter deck exclusive. I definitely pulled my Chaor from a 1st edition booster pack. I'm also pretty sure my OW Refrain of Denial came from a booster pack too. Other than that, I think your list is pretty accurate. Info like this is very useful when evaluating the value of TCO trades and stuff like that.

I have a feeling one of the SD exclusive ultras might be a Mugic, possibly Mugic Reprise (definitely not Song of Deflection, I got 2 of those from boosters). Seems logical enough given there's creatures, attacks, a battlegear and a location in the list.

But no wonder determining the DoP starter exclusives is a mess, the second print run of DoP decks (which were the only ones to reach general retail in my country while the game was still active) contained "exclusive" cards that I found in several 1st edition boosters (last one I bought had a Melody of Malady as the super).

Also what about the rares, uncommons and commons? I think there was starter deck exclusives at every rarity, not just the "rare" rarities. For example, I never ever pulled any Krekks, Canon of Casualtys or Song of Resurgences from the 100's of boosters of DoP I've opened, I only found them in starter decks. There's more I'm sure but those are the ones I remember immediately.

Can you take Chaor and Refrain of Denial off your SD exclusive list though as I know for certain those are incorrect (I got both of mine through boosters)?

Yeah, there are starter exclusive commons and uncommons. Aren't ember flourish and the water/earth one also exclusive?

DOP was a mess of a set.

Marrillian wrote:Yeah, there are starter exclusive commons and uncommons. Aren't ember flourish and the water/earth one also exclusive?

DOP was a mess of a set.

the commons and uncommons and rares were actually pretty easy to figure out due to there higher quanity so I have a complete list, its dumber than you think since they cut into cycle for no reason, song of ember nova? that's in pack but song of geonova? nope. why? also some can be found in both which doesn't help. getting close though just need 3 of those supers and 1 of those ultras are in packs just gotta figure out which ones.

Ah, didn't realise that the the "searching for" bit meant you were still trying to identify cards from that list that could be found in packs!

I just remembered a couple more of the cards from that list that I'm 100% sure I got from booster packs: Nexus Fuse and Iron Pillar. I think the third super you can find in boosters is Telekinetic Bolt, but I'm less sure of that one as I can't remember if I traded for my copy or not. Ack, if only TCO would let me look at my old completed trades I would be able to concretely confirm Telekinetic Bolt's presence in packs for you.

As for ultras, I think Megaroar may have been in boosters, but I can't be sure on that one because I traded for my copy. I haven't got copies of any of the other ultras you list (well, except Heptadd and LVB, but I pulled both of those from tins so I definitely still consider those SD exclusives)

I am judging this by what cards I have in my Chaotic binder by the way, of which 99% of what I have originates from 1st edition boosters (the other 1% comes from TCO trades). I've never had 1st edition starter decks, only about 4 2nd edition ones with the shiny rares (and those sometimes came with supers that could be found in 1st edition boosters! You're right, it is a mess).

TheOneVeyronian wrote:Ah, didn't realise that the the "searching for" bit meant you were still trying to identify cards from that list that could be found in packs!

I just remembered a couple more of the cards from that list that I'm 100% sure I got from booster packs: Nexus Fuse and Iron Pillar. I think the third super you can find in boosters is Telekinetic Bolt, but I'm less sure of that one as I can't remember if I traded for my copy or not. Ack, if only TCO would let me look at my old completed trades I would be able to concretely confirm Telekinetic Bolt's presence in packs for you.

As for ultras, I think Megaroar may have been in boosters, but I can't be sure on that one because I traded for my copy. I haven't got copies of any of the other ultras you list (well, except Heptadd and LVB, but I pulled both of those from tins so I definitely still consider those SD exclusives)

I am judging this by what cards I have in my Chaotic binder by the way, of which 99% of what I have originates from 1st edition boosters (the other 1% comes from TCO trades). I've never had 1st edition starter decks, only about 4 2nd edition ones with the shiny rares (and those sometimes came with supers that could be found in 1st edition boosters! You're right, it is a mess).

ah thanks for the help! I had a feeling Iron pillar was on there. anyway the in TCO you CAN look at your old trades. under the green "trades" tab got to "Your trades" and it shows everyone you've traded with. then just click on the name you want and you can see the list of trades. click on a trade and you'll see what cards were in there. as for megaroar if the card's first edition there's no way to tell if it came from a SD or Booster pack. however since there aren't any 2nd edition starter decks all 2nd edition cards are from booster packs which makes things easy. last note there's not really a difference between 1st and 2nd edition packs in terms of what cards are inside what was an error on my part based on some misinformation so don't worry about that. anyhow if you figure out anything let me know.

Edit: telekinetic bolt is on there just watched someone open one so just need the last ultra.

Chiodosin1 wrote:

TheOneVeyronian wrote:Ah, didn't realise that the the "searching for" bit meant you were still trying to identify cards from that list that could be found in packs!

I just remembered a couple more of the cards from that list that I'm 100% sure I got from booster packs: Nexus Fuse and Iron Pillar. I think the third super you can find in boosters is Telekinetic Bolt, but I'm less sure of that one as I can't remember if I traded for my copy or not. Ack, if only TCO would let me look at my old completed trades I would be able to concretely confirm Telekinetic Bolt's presence in packs for you.

As for ultras, I think Megaroar may have been in boosters, but I can't be sure on that one because I traded for my copy. I haven't got copies of any of the other ultras you list (well, except Heptadd and LVB, but I pulled both of those from tins so I definitely still consider those SD exclusives)

I am judging this by what cards I have in my Chaotic binder by the way, of which 99% of what I have originates from 1st edition boosters (the other 1% comes from TCO trades). I've never had 1st edition starter decks, only about 4 2nd edition ones with the shiny rares (and those sometimes came with supers that could be found in 1st edition boosters! You're right, it is a mess).

ah thanks for the help! I had a feeling Iron pillar was on there. anyway the in TCO you CAN look at your old trades. under the green "trades" tab got to "Your trades" and it shows everyone you've traded with. then just click on the name you want and you can see the list of trades. click on a trade and you'll see what cards were in there. as for megaroar if the card's first edition there's no way to tell if it came from a SD or Booster pack. however since there aren't any 2nd edition starter decks all 2nd edition cards are from booster packs which makes things easy. last note there's not really a difference between 1st and 2nd edition packs in terms of what cards are inside what was an error on my part based on some misinformation so don't worry about that. anyhow if you figure out anything let me know.

Edit: telekinetic bolt is on there just watched someone open one so just need the last ultra.

Ah, I didn't know that. Just checked, actually my only Iron Pillar (a ripple foil one) came from a trade (I could have sworn I opened one too) but I can definitely confirm that Telekinetic Bolt is not an SD exclusive. However, given the original list of SD exclusive cards for DoP and the lack of Iron Pillar on that list, I'd still say Iron Pillar is not a SD exclusive.

When I talked about 2nd edition starter decks, I was talking about the ones that had shiny rares and super rare symbols that said "super" (am I right to believe that these decks were mostly sold outside the US?). Those starters did contain supers that were not SD exclusives, I remember getting a Melody of Malady as the super in one such deck. But I've also had a few that have had SD exclusive supers in them.

aaah yeah ok gotcha, well I'll put iron pilliar back on, I'll still need one more then super then... I'll repost the list again also that previous list doesn't seem totally correct... I saw speed open 2 tangaths once, man that card is booty lol.

anyone let me know if you've found any of these in packs (not starter decks).
Interlude of consequence
Dranikus threshold
Glacier plains
Iron pilliar
Underworld city
Aqua shield
Talisman of the mandiblor
Intress
Owis
Blazier
Drakness
Takinom
Xeild
hail storm
Lavalanche
Sludge gush
toxic gust

Heptadd
Lord van bloot
Lake ken-i-po
Lucky shot
Megaroar
Stone mail